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Muse Ember: Why Pennywell customers don't use savings pots
The decision: whether to run an awareness and onboarding push for savings pots (in-app prompts and a set-up nudge on payday), to raise the pots rate to 3.85% AER, or both. The brief and the data →
- Verdict
- ✗ Not sound
- Research score
- 94 of 100
- Analysis rating
- 1,392
- Head to head, this task
- won 8 of 13
Why it is not sound
The survey
- A research objective no question serves
Scorecard
Numbers 12 of 12 right
| Question | Its answer | True | |
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| What percentage of respondents said they knew, before the survey, that they could open savings pots (Yes at Q1)? | ✓ | 39.4% | 39.4% |
| Among respondents who were asked Q3, what percentage chose 'The interest rate is too low'? | ✓ | 29.7% | 29.7% |
| As a percentage of all respondents, how many knew about pots and chose 'The interest rate is too low' at Q3? | ✓ | 11.7% | 11.7% |
| Weighted to the age mix of all customers who have never opened a pot, what percentage of them would know about pots and choose 'The interest rate is too low' at Q3? | ✓ | 8.8% | 8.8% |
| Weighted to the age mix of all 361,000 customers who have never opened a pot, about how many of them did not know they could open savings pots (No or Not sure at Q1)? | ✓ | 239,700 | 239,702 |
| Among respondents who reported an amount held in savings elsewhere (excluding None, Don't know and Prefer not to say), what percentage hold less than £5,000? | ✓ | 55.2% | 55.2% |
| What percentage of all respondents said they would be likely (fairly or very) to start saving in a pot if the rate rose to 3.85% AER? | ✓ | 29.9% | 29.9% |
| Among respondents asked Q3, is the difference in the share choosing 'The interest rate is too low' between those aged 35-54 and those aged 55-74 statistically significant at the 95% level? (1 for yes, 0 for no) | ✓ | No | No |
| What is the 95% margin of error, in percentage points, on the share of respondents asked Q3 who chose 'The interest rate is too low'? | ✓ | 5.4 points | 5.39 points |
| How many of the open-text answers say the respondent did not know about savings pots or what they are, or want Pennywell to tell them about pots? | ✓ | 126 | 126 |
| How many of the open-text answers from respondents aged 18-34 say they did not know about savings pots or what they are, or want Pennywell to tell them about pots? | ✓ | 46 | 46 |
| What percentage of the customers invited completed the survey? | ✓ | 6% | 6% |
Traps in the data 8 of 8 handled
- ✓Q3 was asked only of the 276 respondents who knew about pots. 'The interest rate is too low' leads there (30%), but that is 12% of all respondents (about 9% weighted), while 61% of all respondents did not know pots existed (No or Not sure).
- ✓Customers aged 55 or over are 15% of non-users but 31% of respondents; they know about pots more and cite the rate more, so unweighted figures overstate awareness and the rate reason (weighted, awareness falls from 39% to 34%).
- ✓The mean amount held elsewhere (£14,513) is pulled up by a few large balances; the median is in the £1,000 to less than £5,000 band and 55% of those reporting an amount hold less than £5,000. Many hold nothing elsewhere.
- ✓30% say they would be likely to start saving in a pot at 3.85% (17% at the current 3.1%); these are stated intentions about a hypothetical rate.
- ✓Respondents aged 75 or over (base 20) show 65% holding £20,000 or more elsewhere, against 13% overall.
- ✓Only 700 of 11,600 invited customers completed (about 6%); those who respond to an email about savings may be more engaged with saving than those who do not.
- ✓The chief financial officer believes customers don't use pots because the rate is uncompetitive.
- ✓Among those asked Q3, the rate reason is 10 points higher for 55-74s (38%, base 120) than for 35-54s (27%, base 102), but the difference is not significant at 95%.
The analysis
Do not raise the rate to 3.85% as the primary move now. Run the awareness and onboarding push first at 3.1%: plain-English in-app explanation of what pots are, a prominent home-screen entry point, a simplified set-up flow with withdrawal-speed reassurance, and a payday set-aside nudge, aimed at the weighted 66% who do not know about pots and especially at 18-34s. In parallel, run a randomised test of nudge versus rate rise (ideally 2x2) measuring actual pot openings and balances transferred, segmented by awareness and existing savings elsewhere, before committing Pennywell to a permanent 0.75pp rate increase. If a rate test is run, prioritise knowers who already hold savings elsewhere, the only group where a rate message showed intent above the nudge.
Evidence from a randomised behavioural test that a rise to 3.85% produces incremental actual openings and transferred balances, concentrated in customers with material external balances, at a cost per pound saved that the COO/CFO judge profitable after the 0.75pp interest cost, and that this incremental effect exceeds the nudge's; or evidence that the nudge/explanation does not convert non-knowers in practice. Also, a properly boosted sample showing a large, profitable 75+ opportunity would change targeting, but on current n=20 it does not.
Findings
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The rate is not the top barrier in the whole non-user population. It is the top stated reason only among the minority who already knew about pots, so it does not settle the case for a rate rise.
Q1 Yes 39.4% of 700, No 50.7%, Not sure 9.9%. Q3 was asked only of the 276 knowers: 29.7% chose rate too low (82/276, 95% margin 5.4pp). That is 11.7% of all 700, and 8.8% weighted to the population age mix (18-34 46%, 35-54 39%, 55-74 13%, 75+ 2%). Weighted unawareness is 66.4%, about 239,700 of 361,000 non-users.
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At the current 3.1% rate, an in-app payday set-aside nudge beats a rise to 3.85% on stated intent overall, with opposite effects for knowers and non-knowers. Neither converts a majority.
Q5 at 3.1% likely 17.4% (700). Q6 nudge at 3.1% likely 33.7%; Q7 rise to 3.85% likely 29.9%. Non-knowers (Q1 No, n=355): nudge 42.5% vs rise 24.2%. Knowers (n=276): nudge 18.8% vs rise 37.0%. Not sure (n=69): nudge 47.8% vs rise 30.4%.
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The £14,500 average savings elsewhere cannot be used to estimate rate-rise inflow. Most savers hold small amounts, over a third hold none, and the mean is driven by a top-coded tail.
Q4 (700): 35.7% none, 59.0% any elsewhere. Among 413 reporting an amount, 55.2% hold under £5,000 (228/413), median band £1,000-£5,000, mean £14,513 from band midpoints counting £50,000+ as £75,000. Only 12.6% of the sample, about 9.4% age-weighted, hold £20,000+. No question asked amount that would move at 3.85%.
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Do not build the campaign around customers aged 75+. They are a tiny population segment with a tiny survey base, and their stated intent is not the highest.
75+ is 20 respondents (2.9% of sample, 2% of population, about 7,220 of 361,000), 13/20 reporting £20,000+ elsewhere, Q3 base only 7. Q6 and Q7 likely both 25.0% (5/20), below the total. Any 75+ estimate has a margin of roughly ±20pp.
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Unawareness and poor findability/setup, not price alone, are the dominant open-text barriers, especially for younger customers.
126 of 230 open-text answers say they did not know about pots/what they are or want Pennywell to tell them, including 46 from 18-34 respondents. A further 40 answers cite difficulty finding pots or fiddly/confusing set-up, including knowers who tried and abandoned set-up. 230 is a self-selected subset of 700, so this shows salience, not population prevalence.
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Age differences in citing the rate should not be targeted on this evidence. The 35-54 vs 55-74 difference is not statistically significant at 95%.
Among Q3 respondents, rate too low: 35-54 27.5% (28/102), 55-74 37.5% (45/120), difference about 10pp, z about 1.6, not significant at 95%. The sample is also age-skewed vs population: 18-34 31.1% vs 46% population, 55-74 28.6% vs 13%, so unweighted totals overstate older, more rate-sensitive and higher-balance behaviour.
Caveats
- Only 700 of 11,600 invited completed (6.0%); 812 started. Non-respondents are uncharacterised beyond age weighting, so population inference may be biased in unknown directions.
- Sample age mix differs materially from population (18-34 31.1% vs 46%, 55-74 28.6% vs 13%); weighted estimates are model-dependent and still rest on small older bases.
- Q3 was asked only of knowers (276), so its percentages cannot be read as population shares without re-basing and weighting.
- Q5-Q7 are stated likelihoods to hypothetical prompts, not observed openings or transfers; they do not measure amount, persistence, or profitability.
- Q4 balances are banded and self-reported; the £14,513 mean uses midpoints and counts £50,000+ as £75,000, and is sensitive to that top-coding.
- 75+ evidence rests on 20 respondents in total and 7 for Q3; no reliable segment inference is possible.
- Open text is 230 self-selected answers from 700; theme counts show what respondents volunteered, not prevalence in the population. Coding of awareness, findability and setup borders involves judgement.
- No data on competitor rates, cost of raising the rate by 0.75pp, cannibalisation, or margin per balance, all needed to judge a rate rise.
Next steps
- decisionApprove and launch awareness/onboarding push plus payday nudge at 3.1%, holding the rate pending test results
- experimentRandomised experiment: nudge x rate (3.1% vs 3.85%) with actual opening and balance-transfer outcomes
- experimentFix findability and set-up friction: home-screen button, fewer steps, plain-English withdrawal timing
- researchResearch amount that would move and competitor rate benchmark, with boosted non-respondent and older-customer samples if targeting is considered
- monitorMonitor cost per acquired pot, balance per pot, and margin at 3.1% vs 3.85% by age and prior awareness
Open-text themes it coded
Did not know about pots / what they are, or want Pennywell to tell them 126Rate too low / want a higher rate 46No spare money / nothing left to save 23Hard to find pots or set-up is fiddly/confusing 40Worried about how quickly money can be withdrawn 10Loyal to savings elsewhere / would not move savings 18Not interested in saving this way / nothing would change their mind 15
The survey it planned
2 screening questions and 9 questions, as the model wrote them.
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S1
Are you a Pennywell current account customer?
One answer- Yes
- No
Continues if Yes
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S2
What is your age?
One answer- 18-34
- 35-54
- 55-74
- 75 or over
- Under 18
Continues if 18-34; 35-54; 55-74; 75 or over
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Q1
Before starting this survey, had you heard of savings pots in the Pennywell app?
One answer- Yes, I had heard of them
- No, I had not heard of them
- Not sure
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Q2
Why have you not opened a Pennywell savings pot? Please select all that apply.
Any that apply- I did not know how to open one
- I did not think the interest rate was good enough
- I do not need to save at the moment
- I prefer to keep my savings elsewhere
- I have been meaning to open one but have not got round to it
- I am not interested in saving inside the Pennywell app
- Something else
Routing Shown only if Q1 is: Yes, I had heard of them
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Q3
Savings pots are instant-access savings accounts inside the Pennywell app, currently paying 3.1% AER. If you were shown how to set one up in the app and reminded on payday, how likely would you be to open one in the next month at 3.1% AER?
ScaleScale 1-5: Extremely unlikely to Extremely likely
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Q4
If savings pots paid 3.85% AER instead of 3.1% AER, and you were shown how to set one up in the app and reminded on payday, how likely would you be to open one in the next month?
ScaleScale 1-5: Extremely unlikely to Extremely likely
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Q5
Please rank the following in order of importance when deciding whether to open a savings pot, from most important (1) to least important (5).
Ranking- The interest rate
- How easy it is to set up
- A reminder on payday
- Having a specific savings goal
- Keeping savings in one app
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Q6
Approximately how much do you currently hold in savings outside Pennywell, for example with other banks, building societies, or in cash ISAs?
One answer- £0
- £1 to £999
- £1,000 to £4,999
- £5,000 to £9,999
- £10,000 to £24,999
- £25,000 or more
- Prefer not to say
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Q7
Where do you hold savings outside Pennywell? Please select all that apply.
Any that apply- Instant-access account
- Cash ISA
- Fixed-term or notice account
- Other
Routing Shown only if Q6 is: £1 to £999; £1,000 to £4,999; £5,000 to £9,999; £10,000 to £24,999; £25,000 or more
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Q8
Have you ever opened a Pennywell savings pot?
One answer- Yes
- No
Continues if No
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Q9
This is a quality-control question. Please select 'Yes' to show you are reading carefully.
One answer- Yes
- No
Sample plan
Invite by email a stratified random sample from the account database frame of customers who have never opened a pot (86% of 420,000 = 361,200), stratified by database age band with equal allocation and disproportionate oversampling of the smaller 55-74 and 75 or over bands, inviting in waves with reminders until each quota fills; pot status is taken from the database and only re-checked at Q8 after awareness is measured, so the screener does not prime Q1. Target 1,540 completes (385 per age band: 18-34, 35-54, 55-74, 75 or over), which gives plus or minus 5 percentage points at 95% confidence per band at p=0.5 (1.96 x sqrt(0.25/385) = 0.05). The brief's 700 completes cannot meet this: 175 per band gives plus or minus 7.4 points, so the board must fund 1,540 or accept wider precision; at an assumed 15% response, invite about 10,300 initially with top-ups for under-filled bands. Weight overall estimates back to the frame age distribution; report unweighted per-band results; exclude Q8 'Yes' and Q9 attention failures.